Hi all, this is my 1st attempt, and I have been getting lots of help from Kieth. I will post a few pics, but 1st, my tank. It is 800x350x450, 2xt8 18watt lights, 1000lph Allpond solutions external filter. 200 watt heaterstat. I started by loading some of the wifes tights with 5mm gravel to use as building blocks for the slopes. Then put 25mm of John Innes no3 over the mounds, capped with 25-40mm of gravel. I then started with the hardscape, Bit too much rockwork in the 1st attempt, then got some advice from someone who has more experience and a better eye. Also put too much DW in. I have now trimmed down on the hardscape and I don't think I am too far off how I want it. Plant list will be a collection from Aquarium Gardens, 2 x Saggitaria Subulata Bunches Foreground 3-15cm Fast easy grower 2 x Vallisnerias Spiralis Bunches 2 x Vallisneria Gigantea Bunches 2 pots of Java Fern (Microsorum Pteropus) Background Midground Midground Up to 60cm 20cm-50cm 15-30cm Tall long leaves Giant long leaves Needs attaching to wood/rock 2 x Cryptocoryne (sellers choice) 2 x Stem Plant (sellers choide) 2 x Echinodorus (sellers choice) Foreground/midground Background Mid/Background Easy grower, low maintenace Regular Pruning Required Great center piece or background filler + 5 more potted plants - mix of foreground, midground and background (not pictured) Not too sure about positioning of the plants yet. I also have quite bit of moss collected from a stone wall while out walking in the countryside last week. I was thinking of doing small carpet along the front left and right upto the path in the center. Also have some moss balls, that I was going to open up and attach to the graggy bits on the rockwork. The 1st pic is how it was, 2nd is how it is now. Any comments, good or bad, would be much appreciated . Thankyou Chris.