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Big stone - Layout suggestions

Discussion in 'Aquarium & Aquascaping General Discussion' started by aibcarpentry, Dec 28, 2017.

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    Hi all,
    new to the forum after being invited by Keith.

    This project is 900x500x450mm (LxWxH) and is mainly viewed from the angle in the first photo.

    The 3 photos after show a big stone on the left which to give you an idea of scale is 440mm high alone, I have some more of the same stone on order but as I don't have access to any retailers who stock pieces nearby I am 'flying blind' a little. I just couldn't get hold of any big stone and this looking like it did and being available I felt I had to take it.

    I'm now not only waiting for the rest of the stone to arrive but also trying to picture something; a layout which might work for me.
    I want to keep this project fairly simple and thinking along the lines of monte carlo, staurogyne repens and a few patches of anubias bonsai as planting but that isn't final.

    Anyone have any ideas/inspiration I might not have fallen on?

    Cheers
    Andrew


    20171228_072320. 1x.JPG 1xleft.JPG 1xright.JPG
     
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    That is what I would call a KIS Keep It Simple Aquascape and with the correct hardscape it works perfect every time. Forget a "Like" name its a simple "Rocky" Aquascape, that also means its your's not someone else's style.

    When are you getting the Rocks?

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    I'm only aware of the KISS acronym; keep it simple stupid!

    Depends on postage but sometime next week now hopefully.
     
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    Yes the original is "KISS" I don't think the extra S is necessary I have been using the KIS for many years now, It could also be Keeping It Simple gives you that very good look. Its something I picked up close to 40 years ago from one of my Design courses.


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    So I have THE stone, I've just put it in some sand for now in my mock tank to see what I can create.
    I know I need to add some more stone but I'm at a bit of a loss as how to go with this now, any ideas?
    I know I want to carpet the tank out with some Monte Carlo then add some staurogyne repens and royals bonsai if that helps.
    Any input gratefully received
    Andrew

    Option 1
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    Option 2
    20180104_112227-.112300.
    20180104_112236-.112301.
     
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    Here's a storyline of a layout suggested by the people I got the stone from:
    step1.JPG step2.JPG step3.JPG step4.JPG step5.JPG step6.JPG step7.JPG

    And here's the stone apart from the main one I have:
    20180104_130934. 20180104_130938.
     
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    That is the old KIS to perfection.
    To set it off all you is a good quality Substrate and an easy to grow low plant all low tech and far less problems.

    I would not change a thing.

    step6-.4120.
    Here are more excellent Aquascapes to stir your interests.
    These Aquascapes can be done using the rocks you have.
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    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQi-7T6ihFRBmqm8fLMOXmW8S6gczitty9pkYegPJ0r8enEX67A.
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwchnF_dxYJ4JlaukveRxAQYLBWkgXujaVduGLXrctZhEDCfl2RQ.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    Is that from the mock tank or the suggested layout?
     
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    step6--4120-.4125.

    This is the one I think you should concentrate on and finish. Its very simple and most important of all its something finished and you can sit back and admire it, while you are working on the DW tank.

    From that the planting plan can be started. To KIS my suggestion would be all Low Tech using one low plant that is easy to grow and locate.

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    Wow, what a stone...:love:

    Great setup Andrew :clap:
     
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    So, some more stone has arrived............do I know what to do with them probably not!
    Here's a couple of photos of what I have and I'm thinking that sometimes less is more and to adopt the KISS theory will be the best thing.
    Soil will not be left at these levels but this is all the sand I have, I will also add some more stone but I might just add the one and keep it really simple.
    I know the stones will need some tweaking here and there at the very least anyhow but I view it from the front left so think the final tweaking would be done in situ.
    As ever I'm after peoples input so please give me your honest views.
    Cheers
    Andrew 20180112_131015. 20180112_131020. 20180112_135644. 20180112_135739. 20180112_135745.
     
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    Are they for a second hardscape, Andrew?

    I would not change the other one at all.
     
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    step6--4120--4125-.4128.

    You are going to get any better that this one.

    The latest for a few reasons it just does not work.
    The RH rock looks very lonely even if it's your main rock. I would consider placing a smaller (but not too small) well sculptured rock similar to the above photo.

    The LH rock it could be a whisker too big (easily fixed bury it a little). The main concern is that rather flat surface its extremely distracting and actually looks like the main feature compared to all the sculptured surfaces.

    On the plus side you are experimenting with those rocks and learning as you play with all those rocks.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    No all rocks to play with.
    Which one would you not change?
     
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    I assume you meant aren't? The problem is I view it from the front left so I wouldn't see the main rock most of the time, the other rock is also several and the colours aren't great in real life.

    Adding or replacing?
    The photo doesn't really do it justice but I can bury it some.

    Do you think that by just adjusting these 2 and adding one other things could work?
     
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    This is the one I am referring to.

    Its extremely basic yet ever thing works together.
    Its more vertical which helps.
    A few smaller rocks that have been added work perfectly.
    This Aquascape looks very professional again its KIS to perfection plus, "Less is more and more is less".
    step6--4120--4125--4128-.4135.

    Photo Below
    Its that big rock on the LH side is too big plus that large flat surface just does not work at all.

    I just wish I was there I could sort all this out in a few minutes for you.

    20180112_135644-.4132.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    Ok, the problem I have with the first one you say works is the angle I view it from..... 20171228_072320.
     
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    I also don't like it that much to be honest also some of the stones in real life are not nice to look at
     
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    OK fair enough then work with what looks and works best for your situation.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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