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Jason's Scape (Father Nature)

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  1. Jason King

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    First was hygrolon then sphag then orchids, the orchids originally were tied to cork pieces with moss inbetween the orchid and cork.
     
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    I was always taught and when I was running the beginners classes I always taught, "Tie orchids to the wood/cork then a layer of moss over the roots to keep them moist" The reason being the roots will attach to the wood/cork not roam through the moss. The moss is always kept moist not wet. Native moss is natural for the orchids. Some Aust tropical native orchids are not covered and only watered during the wet seasons and always grow on the side of the tree that get the morning sun as the afternoon sun is too hot. These orchids store their water in big tubers.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    Yes indeed Jason, it connects both worlds and looks realy beautifuly. It mutch more natural looking... My both tanks are in way setup the same. In an open top Riparium style and i'm kinda hooked to it. I like it much beter than only submersed growth and hooded aqauriums. I haven;t updated my journals for some time now, i will soon..

    Good to read you also have success with that Rhizotonic, it is great stuff.. It promotes rhizoic growth and it realy does what it promises to do.. And hence that's what mosses and macro epiphytes depends on, rhizoids are the celstructures that makes them attach and feed with.. The more they have of it the healthier they become. I saw my ferns, buce and mosses go bonkers over it. So i'm not surpriced Orchids like it too..

    Pitty that stuff is rather expensive, but worth using to get plants healthy sooner than without..

    I tried a Bulbophillum orchid above my tank.. But as Keith describes they are very light sensitive.. That probably was it's demise, receiving to much light.. They indeed like a kind of wet/dry cycle to realy thrive.. Not to wet and dry up a little and get wet again.. Under artificial light above an open top tank it is very hard to keep this a steady cycle. I guess in our living room climates it requires a lot of attention and input to monitor. I noticed the lights warmth drying it up to fast and disrupting that cycle to much from soaking wett to bone dry withing 24 hours. And that is chocking the plant to much. For what ever reason, not paying attention to the orchids for 2 days can be fatal, that's what happend to mine.. Want to try again,but it's hard to stay on top several times a day constantly. One symptom almost all orchids show when light is to much, the get a purple hue on their leaves. :)
     
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    Many tropical orchids have their roots exposed and would get their water via the tropical evening mist. More orchids are killed by over watering than any thing. Another thing I was taught during the hot weather water late in the afternoon so that they will dry at night. In the coldest of winter they can be covered in snow yet if you water the same orchid too much in the winter it will die.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    Keith after examining another orchid I have that is still tied to the original cork you are correct about the way it's tied, I never noticed this and certainly didn't realise this.

    The orchids seem fine and are certainly looking healthier than before.

    I hope they will continue to thrive :) if not I'll look into changing things.

    Thanks for the tip and now orchid related Knowledge (y)
     
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    Sadly my father passed yesterday, so in memery of him I'm going to name this scape in his memory.

    Name will come soon once I've had a think :)

    Father's Day
    Father Nature
    ...
     
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    I am very sorry for your loss Jason.
    God bless you in this moment.
     
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    Yes I was impressed with Rhizotonic, if I was using it for mass growing it's very expensive, lucky for me it's only for a small area :)

    The whole idea for having hygrolon and moss, slightly submersed allowing the Emersed hygrolon and moss to suck up the water and at the same time keeping the orchid substrate moist but not the orchids folliage, I do spray finely every other day aswell, time will tell if it works? or not. As far as I can see the approach is not common practice and certainly experimental.

    If successful I would like to look into a more advanced paludarium style setup in the garage, more Terrarium than aquarium.
     
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    Thank you for the kind words Jr :)
     
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    Sorry for your loss great, I understand fully I lost my father 1956 when I was 18 yld plus my mother many years ago.

    I can honestly say I do know how you are feeling.

    Regards Keith
     
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    Thanks for kind worlds Keith :)
     
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    Condolences

    Jason, same here. lost them both at a young age and they were both much tho young.. Their love is un replaceable, still miss them every day 35 years later. Little comfort that they live on in our hearts and memories and stay with us like that.. And this indeed is worth a :) and make the best of it in their honour.
    Lovely idea to dedicate your new scape to him...

    Lots of success and flowers.. Can't wait to see.. (y)
     
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    Thank you Marcel for the kind words :)
     
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    Oh Jason,
    I also feel very, very sorry for your heavy loss.(n)

    Maybe in your scape's landscape way you can watch your father walking on his last footpath up to the far light distance...
    I hope this imagination can help your heart a bit, to let him go in peace...
     
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    Thank you ev, for the nice words :)
     
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    Tank looks great Jason! I'll be following you here too :)

    One question: is the substrate just plain sand? Sorry if you already posted this information on the thread, I must have missed it...
     
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    Thanks Fab.

    Yes just plain sand and a few tabs, most low tech based ferts are supplying the plants with food.

    Fert details are 25ml per week of 0-0-1.2

    1% K, 0.4% Mg, 0.08% Fe, 0.018% Mn, 0.002% Cu, 0.01% B, 0.01% Zn, 0.001% Mo, EDTA. Plus fish poop.

    No Nitrate or Phosphate dosed.
     
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    Fantastic, simple yet effective. Tank is stunning, so that's working great!

    So,if no nitrates nor phosphates are dosed, I guess light is pretty low... am I right? And how long do you think you can get away without dosing macros?
     
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    Thanks fab

    Im only running one channel on the ati and that's at 50% for 8 hours.

    Full details of my lighting system can be found in my old thread here..

    https://glassboxgardeners.com/threads/jasons-120x60x45-tank-setup-modified-eareef-1200s.473/

    For quick reference

    Channel 1 not used at this time

    2 x GE Starcoat T5
    Triphosphor 865 6500K Daylight

    Channel 2 at 50% power

    2x D-D T5 54w Aquaflora 4000-6000K Powerchrome Bulb - more of a red spectrum

    1x D-D T5 54W MIDDAY 6000K POWERCHROME BULB

    1x zoomed flora sun 5000k alot more red. Bulb

    The plants used do not need co2 either, microsurum etc.

    If i noticed the plants suffering I'll change my plans with the ferts and lighting.
     
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    Forgot to mention that soon I'll be getting another tank that I'll put in the garage for a higher tech Dutch style, this was all planned a couple of months back but after my dad took a turn i postponed my plans, now it's time to move on so I'm hoping it will be as soon things are sorted at my mum's

    I'm still unsure if i should go with a 120x60x45H or a 120x60x60? We will see what my budget allows.

    I will probably use the ati with that and get a smaller light for this lowtech scape.
     

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