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    Hi guys!
    fish tank 60*30*30
    light 4*24w (2*aquaflora, 2*special plant)
    eternal filter Jbl E1500 full with Eheim substrat pro 2L, Seachem Purigen 300 ml, Biomech 2L, Mechpro 2L,
    presurized Co2 with external reactor
    fertilizer Dennerle S7, E15, V30, planta gold, carbon liquid
    cosmetic sand, red moor, lava rock
    plant: java moss, hemianthus monte carlo, hemianthus callitrichoides cuba, bucefalandra sp mini catherinaea


    at the moment it looks like
    IMAG0325_zpsqxrj6sb3.
     
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    Looks nice (y)
     
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    thank you Menky!
     
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    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwJnyfClAdk8PuTaBgsLUbiCxLmfDwQAyCSBm_WA107gHkwCg9.
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    Dorin

    This is a "Believe it or Not" this is something I was thinking about 1st photo notice the trees appear to be smaller and not all standing up like straight poles.

    The 2nd photo is another idea this will give you a pathway as well.

    I have said for a long time look at nature for ideas.

    Do these make any sense to you.?

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    I ordered the powder sand ADA Amazonia, fertilization as ADA.


    both pictures gives me some idea but first picture is closer to what I have in aquarium now.

    create a small island around trees and a river flowing from left rear to right rear corner.

    in the front left corner to create those little tree in front after river to be the plant area from the left to the right corner.
     
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    I did a simulation.

    IMAG0328_zpsci9ghokj.

    marked area is the area with carpet plants or moss .
    I'm sorry for those marks but not know how to use photoshop
    IMAG0329_zpsdknliwya.




    River to make it under the stones in the highest?
     
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    Hi Dorin,

    my favourite is still the first one,
    is has this subtle kind of perspective like this here, too: https://www.imaging-one.de/shop/newsflash/2012-02-11
    also the slope of the sand is absolutely perfect in my eyes...
    wonderfully calm...

    I would only plant it as a "meadow"....
    If you make a river, look at Keith's second picture - in front it has to be very wide...

    Regards
    Evelyn
     
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    for me the first picture is still favorite
    both pictures were wide open in front

    If I think only a meadow everything seems too simple.

    As an aside I really want to reach the top aquascape thing I do every day, now I spend almost daily 16 hours at the computer studying. others do, nature photos taken by photographers

    I think I took it once in a crazy;)
     
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    Diorin%20%20GBG%201%20Trees%2027%201.16_edited-2.

    I played with a few things photo 2 wide river (blue) YUKKKK every thing looks out of place, it might work if you have a very deep tank (front to back) and all your trees were a lot finer BUT no to be

    Back to photo 1

    A must be done thickest trunks towards the front and be prepared to shave a trunk down to give you more perspective.

    Not to be done a straight line of rocks or trees it starts to become a man made not as nature intended.

    Suggestions
    No1 tree over to the RH end.

    No2 tree over to the LH end

    Reason being you now have a big open space at the RH end because of the big overhanging piece pointing to the right.

    No 3 either in front of the twiggy bits which you would move more to the back, again this should help with the perspective.

    Its going to be several try and see which is the best remember we only have a flat picture to look at.

    I would not be a bit surprised if Evelyn has not seen these trees in the wild.

    Once Roy has a say you will have a fantastic Aquascape but its not going to happen immediately.

    Just one little hint we miss nothing just ask Roy.

    Try working on the trees only until we get them 110% perfect, then we will move on to the extras rocks , plants and where to place them.

    Just remember KIS and do not be in a hurry, an excellent Aquascape takes time to set up and develop.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    i think is more better to restart all
    what i have:
    red moor
    IMAG0341_zpsshfpjdqh.



    sand, amazonia powder, lava rock diferent size and dragon stone diferent size
     
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    I tried different arrangements
     

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    WOW that is certainly a very good selection you have to work with and the combinations of Hardscapes is just too many to even think about.

    The "Others" I will be getting photo of so I can look at every one and start comparing each one.

    I do not have a favorite yet the "One" might be there.

    After seeing all you DW pieces I now know the final Aquascape will be way beyond you even dreamed about.

    Dorin%20Hardscape%201%2028.1.16%20_edited-1.

    All the DW pieces are now numbered for ease of working.

    Because of the setting up of your Aquascape I very strongly suggest you put in your Substrate you are going to use a topping will now work as the Substrate shape could be different to what you have now.

    The back and ends of your tank the last thing you want to see is any distractions I personally would use a dark marine blue for the ends using the Vinyl book covering its cheap and easy to use.

    Now the backing I would like the same but not stuck on to the glass as I am thinking of back lighting which will make your Aquascape even more interesting.

    OK this is a long way off but its easy to prepare for it now that after its finished then start thinking of back lighting, I can hear a few members brains ticking over all ready.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    just 1 think, DW nr.2 and nr.3 is only 1 piece not 2
     
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    Welcome, looks very promessing all.
    Nice collection indeed :) but not the easiest wood to work with in such a small dimensions as 60x30x30.. The first one is as Ev says, with the sand added, also for me still is the best one as starting point to work from. You know what it is with wood as dominant hard scape?? If you want to use rock with it it should be minimal, only to create a sence of scale end depth, at least not to much big chunks actualy no big chunks at all. As it is the other way around, dominant rock scape, then wood is minimal to create some scale and dept. They can't be both as dominant and your wood already is smack in your fase with all it's wayward and freaky shapes. This doesn't need much big rocks with wayward shapes then you wouldn't know where to look at, like looking at a Picasso painting (The war). :) Rather smaller smooth rocks bringing scale and smoothness and ease..

    Take a look at contest entries photo's where forest scenes with trees are replicated.. Then you'll also notice that the scapes with the most depth look most intriguing, are the ones where the width of the trunk makes the depth. Thinner stems at the back, thicker stems at the front. A wider trunk at the back usualy distords that sence of depht, specialy in a small tank packed together.

    Make a scape and leave it untouched for a day or two and just look at it.. Then make small changes you have seen which need improvement and leave it again.. It sometimes takes days to see small things out of place which only need to be moved a few inches to get it right. Changing to much or starting all over again al the time only makes you totlaly mad.. (y) I worked 5 weeks on my first scape and still changed things after it was running a half a year..
     
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    I have not made up my mind which is the best one to work with yet, sorry been extremely busy getting every thing sorted out after a nasty kitchen fire

    Those points that Marcel pointed out to you can either make it an excellent Aquascape or just a few bits of DW stuck here and looks any thing but natural.

    Your Aquascape will be a KIS and "Less is More"

    Marcel I think I have said that many times its the old take it slow approach.

    Keith:cathug::cathug:
     
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    So true.
    If I may quote a saying: if youre in a hurry, take a D- tour
     
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